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作者: coralfriend 時間: 2015-1-12 00:18:34 標題: 一個簡單土炮自制三萬公升的缸

本帖最後由 coralfriend 於 2015-1-12 00:18 編輯

缸主不是一個一時衝動的人只是一個以養海水魚作為終生丞諾的簡單人!
缸主不是富豪,只是一個魚迷!
缸主在數年前在偏遠的新界以所有積蓄,購買了–座小小村屋去建造自己的安樂園!
缸主也是一個DIY高手,決定自己去組合,建造一套三萬公升的魚缸!
魚缸在建造期為時年多,力盡所有困難,缸曾爆,曾漏,曾......
魚缸終於在年多前落成了!整個魚缸是缸主自家制造,保證土炮!
主珊瑚缸現正養水,未曾入石和珊瑚,只加入數百開缸魚!主珊瑚缸8.5尺x10.5尺高3.5尺鯊魚缸8.5尺x18尺高5尺(有三尺深入地底)加缸後大Sump約3萬litre!

It compose of  one reef tank and one shark tank! The water of reef tank ,shark tank and the sump which add up to a total volume of more than 30000 litre!
Reef tank which is  still under construction.
The dimension of this tank is width 8.5 feet, length 10.5 feet and height 3.5 feet.
There are some coral keep inside the shark tank as well.
The final structure of this reef tank is not yet finished.
Rock work and coral are waiting to add inside this tank.
The current inhabitant is numerous damsel fish and tangs plus other fish as well.Those fish is kept for nearly one year.
Shark tank
Dimension(Wide 8.5 feet x Length 18 feet x Height 5 feet)
This tank is situated in the lower part of the main tank.There are two black tip and one white tip reef shark.
The length of each shark is about 4 feet long.
The shark is feed twice weekly with fish of appropriate size.
The wave maker generate huge wave every 40 seconds.  It brings fresh air and current to those sharks.
At the very far end of the tank, there reside some yellow tang and coral.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVa0Mu8fMtg&feature
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEEG_fiVZGE&feature
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjhJuGjkCBc&feature
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIZK3uztdMs&feature
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm_iPWz1IwY&feature

作者: sumsum28 時間: 2015-1-12 00:41:55

一個字,勁!!!

作者: Master11 時間: 2015-1-12 00:44:28

非一般既決心先做到,利害!

作者: j90109173 時間: 2015-1-12 00:47:47

這都是我夢想

作者: MATTFX 時間: 2015-1-12 00:54:14

冇得彈

作者: jacky66 時間: 2015-1-12 01:13:17

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日常打理更要花好多心機

作者: jacky66 時間: 2015-1-12 01:13:23

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日常打理更要花好多心機，天幕是否都是DIY?

作者: menlok1012 時間: 2015-1-12 01:18:53

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私人海洋公園

作者: ff23456 時間: 2015-1-12 01:26:46

嘩！利害……師兄你代我地好多魚迷完成不敢做的夢想。請多分享其中歷程，如結構材料，如何運水，多大的器材，好期待。

作者: pat_shiu 時間: 2015-1-12 01:33:49

真利害！

作者: ff23456 時間: 2015-1-12 01:55:16

ff23456 發表於 2015-1-12 01:26
嘩！利害……師兄你代我地好多魚迷完成不敢做的夢想。請多分享其中歷程，如結構材料，如何運水，多大的器材 ...

室內/室外/溫室？如何照明？室外如何應付下雨天，冬天/夏天水溫問題

作者: ff23456 時間: 2015-1-12 01:57:21

ff23456 發表於 2015-1-12 01:26
嘩！利害……師兄你代我地好多魚迷完成不敢做的夢想。請多分享其中歷程，如結構材料，如何運水，多大的器材 ...

室內/室外/溫室中？如何照明？室外如何應付下雨天，冬天/夏天水溫問題？海水源何來?期待解答，謝謝。

作者: civiclau 時間: 2015-1-12 01:58:41

神作

反而對佢器材同保養興趣較大

作者: Kwong 時間: 2015-1-12 03:41:15

真係大開眼界，魚友夢想，又可以潛水入缸親近心愛魚兒，師兄你好犀利！

作者: coralfriend 時間: 2015-1-12 04:13:21

本帖最後由 coralfriend 於 2015-1-12 04:36 編輯

[attach]59084[/attach] 水冷１及２號

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水冷３及４號

RK2 來自結業的藍地球地鋪

RK2 化氮及生物過哭

DIY surge box no1

overflow at the back and sump at the ground, far away is DIY 8 foot skimmer made of glass
right side is DIY surge box2

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bottom sump (Huge and full of plenum to reduce NO3)

a corner of connecting pipe

sump at our feet over 20 plenum box inside and fully grow with algae

Self cleaning DIY 8 feet huge square skimmer made of glass
No need to manual clean

top overflow at the back of the tank
Beneath is the sump underneath our foot
right side is old skimmer no 3

DIY rubbish box which is a surge box

Two huge calcium reactor and serious pump CO2 and RO water reactor

上水pump加old skimmer no4

重貴是電費,電力已特別加大,100m三相
夏天電費每月三萬,冬天每月是一萬五仟,不是想Show off但如要養到如此大的Reef tank是必需用這電量的!
可見缸主養魚的必死之心!特別一題是reef tank照明曰間用天然暘光而晚間用魯仔群!
全缸是自己一手做,玻璃不用２萬元但玻璃絞也用了２萬!
最重一件底玻璃重至一仟磅要Call齊12位Brother自己友去正位!
我都應為是神級之作!!!

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作者: Terminator2 時間: 2015-1-12 04:44:01

無得頂 !!!

作者: Kwong 時間: 2015-1-12 07:25:04

夏天電費費用可買兩條橙仙！冬天電費費用可買兩條日本仙！

作者: leemanho 時間: 2015-1-12 08:10:07

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淨電費都三萬一個月，仲話缸主唔係富豪？

真係神作

作者: faiwong 時間: 2015-1-12 08:27:33

缸主好勁呀

作者: marcokong 時間: 2015-1-12 08:52:30

太太太瘋狂啦

作者: gn02562975 時間: 2015-1-12 09:04:27

"服"

作者: calvinfff 時間: 2015-1-12 09:31:37

曰間用天然暘光......

不過點解決青苔問題?? Super UV ?

作者: ybkwok 時間: 2015-1-12 10:05:31

香港既代表作！
唔知有冇機會俾各位魚友，實地參觀一下呢？

作者: Benny 時間: 2015-1-12 10:09:58

超級魚迷、可以開魚場、

作者: derek23 時間: 2015-1-12 10:21:32

強大,想參觀X2

作者: snakelok 時間: 2015-1-12 10:35:23

單係睇電費, 已經覺得好瘋狂.
興趣真係無價, 缸主真係好犀利.

作者: bryan811 時間: 2015-1-12 10:38:48

偶像

作者: qqkkfish 時間: 2015-1-12 10:42:57

真利害！

作者: ulgycat 時間: 2015-1-12 10:49:53

希望可以不位停更新個進度同個缸

作者: 我係wingk960 時間: 2015-1-12 11:11:20

最重要個心...缸主犀利..

作者: skimmer 時間: 2015-1-12 11:15:07

作者: ff23456 時間: 2015-1-12 11:22:35

夏天冬天加埋平均每月電費二萬二，每年是26萬元電費……樓主是富豪架。仲想知樓主用鹽定所咸水?據知新界村屋無咸水沖架……咁咪用好多鹽囉！

作者: ff23456 時間: 2015-1-12 11:28:31

所以最貴是keep水溫，水處理化氮，運水，跟住照明，仲有水費同鹽……救命啊。

作者: nickdo 時間: 2015-1-12 11:56:51

將温室改做不透光隔熱頂, 照明改用太陽管反射太陽光, 晚上用LED 照明, 我估電費應該平一半都唔止. 如水管整齊D會更完美.

作者: coralfriend 時間: 2015-1-12 12:06:22

calvinfff big brother
Since the sump grow of algae, the algae problem is settled

wingk960 bigbrother
Thanks a lot!

ulgycat bigbrother
Try my best to update!

qqkkfish bigbrother
Thanks a lot!

Bryan811 bigbrother
The tank owner is my idol too!

Snakelok bigbrother
The tank owner is really a crazy guy!

ybkwok bigbrother moderator,derek 23 bigbrother!
The owner is a low profile man.  I will ask him for his permission.  Not sure he will allow!

Benny bigbrother
He is a super reef fans.  He can stand in front of a reeftank for three hour!

Macrokong bigbrother,
This man is really crazy!

faiwong,gn02562975 bigbrother,
Thanks!

leemanho bigbrother,
The tank owner is not very rich but he has some saving to pay for the bill!
If I get such a electric bill, I will faint.

Kwong bigbrother,
The electric bill is really crazy!

Terminator2,faiwong bigbrother,
Thanks!

ff23456 bigbrother,
Green house effect, temp increase, large electric bill for chiller in summer.
I discuss with him to decrease the electric bill, the solution is cover the top, only use halide for illumination

pat_shiu bigbrother,
Thanks!
menlok1012, jacky66, MATTFX,j90109173, Master11,sumsum28,71 bigbrother,
Thanks!
civiclau bigbrother,
I will further explain about his equiment if necessary!

Skimmer bigbrother,
Thanks!

nickdo bigbrother,
He has force to cover the top at the end.  It is what I guess!

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作者: coralfriend 時間: 2015-1-12 12:08:51

Nickdo bigbrother,
Good suggestion! Thanks a lot!

作者: coralfriend 時間: 2015-1-12 12:11:59

ff23456

He usually use 30 large bowl of salt to change water! He order salt in a quantity of 30 bowl!

作者: coralfriend 時間: 2015-1-12 12:21:14

ff23456,

Large reef system has many challenging problem. Some kind of problem that we never has a chance to encounter. We can see the tank owner has a strong will to keep large reef tank as a life long hobby!

作者: coralfriend 時間: 2015-1-12 12:37:01

DIY Q tank! Skimmer heater, uv, airline , temporary shelter for fish(pipe)

Every time 20-30 pieces of fish is Q for 3 weeks before entering the main tank!

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作者: calvinfff 時間: 2015-1-12 12:56:27

coralfriend 發表於 2015-1-12 12:06
calvinfff big brother
Since the sump grow of algae, the algae problem is settled
wingk960 bigbrot ...

原來 Algae sump 可以咁有效

作者: 細輝 時間: 2015-1-12 13:19:27

勁、勁、勁

作者: 細輝 時間: 2015-1-12 13:19:32

勁、勁、勁

作者: Messi_sunshine 時間: 2015-1-12 13:58:18

好很勁，有機會開放參觀就好啦！！排定隊.......

作者: timothy898989 時間: 2015-1-12 14:09:47

師兄長玩可以試下太陽能，應該慳唔少電費

睇地方似大樹下個頭...

作者: 吾係路人甲 時間: 2015-1-12 14:18:15

難以置信!

作者: ff23456 時間: 2015-1-12 14:20:15

coralfriend 發表於 2015-1-12 12:11
ff23456

He usually use 30 large bowl of salt to change water! He order salt in a quantity of 30 ...

我自己100升咸水約要用50元鹽開，缸主三萬升咸水要買萬五蚊鹽……如果比左個缸我，換水都換窮我.he,he.

作者: hachan 時間: 2015-1-12 15:05:39

版主好野

成世仔都無機會擁有。
版主可以攪個旅行團嗎？

作者: z2z2 時間: 2015-1-12 15:54:48

實在是香港之光

作者: obama810 時間: 2015-1-12 17:31:57

缸主毅力非凡, 果然係D.I.Y表表者, 器材陣容已大開眼界,開缸非常困難, 保養更困難

作者: 深水角 時間: 2015-1-12 17:40:46

強

作者: coralfriend 時間: 2015-1-12 19:22:27

深水角 moderator big brother,obama810 big brother,z2z2 big brother,[size=1em]細輝[size=1em] [size=1em] big brotherThe tank owner says thanks a lot!

hachan bigbrother,
The tank owner is also not able to play such type of tank when he was young.  I remember I can only afford to buy a 5 dollar tomato clown fish in Mong Kok railway station market.  Work hard and you must success one day!  I will ask the tank owner for you!

吾係路人甲 big brother,
I also can't believe what I see in the very first beginning.

Timothy898989 bigbrother,
It is a good suggestion!  The tank is situated in 八鄉

Messi_sunshine bigbrother,
I will give you a pm if the tank owner allow to visit again!

Calvinfff bigbrother,
Algae in sump is indeed very effective but the bioload of this tank is not high in this moment.  Therefore, the algae is not so much!  It is just my guessing

The rock work and the framework is in the stage of preparation. Coral and liverock is waiting to come

The size of shark compare to the size of salt

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作者: Lucky 時間: 2015-1-12 19:26:19

作者: coralfriend 時間: 2015-1-12 20:00:57

本帖最後由 coralfriend 於 2015-1-12 20:02 編輯

Thanks Lucky bigbrother
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrO5CWw5TOg&feature

Calvinfff bigbrother,
The RK2 also help much to lower the nutrient level of the tank! Therefore, the algae bloom is not so great!

作者: HIM 時間: 2015-1-12 21:05:50

大開眼界

作者: waynecheng 時間: 2015-1-12 22:27:53

好正呀

作者: calvinfff 時間: 2015-1-12 23:06:53

coralfriend 發表於 2015-1-12 20:00
Thanks Lucky bigbrother

得來不易……值得鼓掌

作者: Messi_sunshine 時間: 2015-1-12 23:25:51

coralfriend 發表於 2015-1-12 19:22
深水角 moderator big brother,obama810 big brother,z2z2 big brother,細輝 big brotherThe tank owner s ...

期待！！！！！

作者: meowmeow 時間: 2015-1-13 02:52:54

so crazy

作者: timothy898989 時間: 2015-1-13 09:59:21

coralfriend 發表於 2015-1-12 19:22
深水角 moderator big brother,obama810 big brother,z2z2 big brother,細輝 big brotherThe tank owner s ...

缸主住八鄉應更加好好利用, 有唔少人都有用 (當然唔係大型)

但個地方係租就唔好整喇, 唔值得

作者: coralfriend 時間: 2015-1-13 15:39:44

timothy898989 bigbrother,

Yes! I agree with you.
The entire house is belong to the tank owner.

Meowmeow bigbrother,

It is a little bit crazy!

Calvinfff bigbrother,

Sure! It cannot find another one now! I also want to buy RK2!

Wanyechang, Him,Messi_sunshine bigbrother!

Thanks a lot!

作者: pat_shiu 時間: 2015-1-13 18:49:45

Its really crazy, its not easy to do the daily maintenance, such as cleaning the glass, feeding, water change.......I cannot imagine how many hrs the owner need to spend on the routine work everyday.

I understand that the owner is low profile but if possible ....I love to visit his house and it will be my pleasure to see both tanks.

作者: newtoy 時間: 2015-1-13 20:11:08

犀利啊

有機會既我都想參觀下

作者: pat_shiu 時間: 2015-1-14 03:41:43

我今日比左D相我大佬睇，佢無養魚不過提出左一點，可能缸主要注意一下。
缸主用左好多塑膠箱做DIY, 佢話大大部份生產膠箱D膠都吾會加UV stablizer，個箱放係太陽下時間一長就會變"脆"，會有風險。除非個箱係注明for户外。
我大佬做左塑膠好多年應該信得過，不過佢話短時間係沒問題，但最好都係改用玻璃or亞加力。

作者: coralfriend 時間: 2015-1-14 10:15:20

Pat_Shu bigbrother,

Sorry , I do not have any tool to write Chinese character in my working place.  I have to write in English although my English is not good either.

Good observation and very good opinions from your brother!
Your brother is right.  There are still many problems existing and need to fix in his system.
There are in fact two large water containers to make the surge.
The blue one(plastic) is for the reef tank.  Unfortunately, this one is not allow to use now.
Another one(glass fibre) which is below the blue one  and the glass fibre container is for the shark tank.
I attach two photos for your reference.  We can follow the outlet pipe and it is clear that there are two container.  One on top and the other grey one below(although it is hiding behind the concret,we can bearly see the corner of the second one).

Plastic is not uv resistance and it will crack in long term.  It also absorb water and bulge out. It change its form gradually.  In fact this plastic container is not design for holding water in long term.  Therefore, the owner change them to glass fibre instead.  The watercontainer for the shark tank is no such problem any more.  Besides that,  the blue container can make the wate level in the main reef tank rise two to three inches within 10 second.  The power of surging effect is so strong that it already damage a little corner of the glass to break and crack.  The owner has to change it back to smaller size and another material as well.  Therefore, we can not see any surging effect on the reef tank in my video!

Your opinion is very valuable. It is also the aim of my thread. I hope that can receive some suggestions which can help the tank owner to improve his tank. Trial and error method is the only way to complete a task that the tank owner have not contact before!

Newtoy bigbrother, I will try to contact the owner.

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作者: timothy898989 時間: 2015-1-14 12:10:39

http://www.cmfish.com/bbs/forum. ... &extra=page%3D1

睇到你既文另外諗起國內既POST

有時間都可以上去睇下, 睇下有冇野你地都可以COPY到番黎香港用

作者: royleung826 時間: 2015-1-14 13:40:22

一部5匹變頻冷氣電費可能平過4部1匹水冷

作者: ko1008 時間: 2015-1-14 15:19:20

精彩

作者: pat_shiu 時間: 2015-1-14 15:40:38

coralfriend 發表於 2015-1-14 10:15
Pat_Shu bigbrother,

Sorry , I do not have any tool to write Chinese character in my working place ...

Hi Coralfriend,

My English is also poor but I hope my input can help the owner a little. If the reef tank's glass is already broken and cracked due to the surged effect, then its really risky as I think the crack will not stop eventhough you stop the surged box.....

I think the shark tank can sustain the surged effect because its few feet under the ground, it helps to reinforce the structure and absorb the force generated by the wave. In the long run, the reef tank may need to have an extra framework to reinforce the glass structure. As the tank is so big that each inch movement is approx 460pounds, if the wave is 2-3inches high then the force is about 1000pounds per every 10seconds. The structure of the tank need to be very strong to avoid the damage due to the wave but I dont know how to do the calculation....and may need to have some input from professional point of view on this issue.

作者: coralfriend 時間: 2015-1-14 17:00:01

本帖最後由 coralfriend 於 2015-1-14 17:01 編輯

Pat_shiu bigbrother,
You are quite right! Crack will propagate and become larger and larger. Therefore, the tank owner remove the crack area entirely and then reinforced with another glass on top. It is the area underneath the overflow site which the crack begins. I attach two photos. The second one is the left hand corner of the first one. You can see that there are an extra glass cover the area under the opening of overflow area. The tank owner emty all the water of this tanks first. Remove all the fish. Clean the area well and then remove the crack entirely and cover the area with another extra glass. Since the cracking event has happened, the surge tower has forced to stop in action. In fact, this tank is build by the tank owner and his elder brother. His brother is a civil engineer. His brother advocate a lot in the design and fabricate of this tanik. His brother give instruction of not open the surge devise until any modification is made. Therefore, I think that this tank is quite safe now!

Thank ko1008 bigbrother!

royleung826 big brother,
Thank you for your suggestion. Use air condition to settle the overheat problem is another solution! I hope that the tank owner will serious consider it as well! But I think that water cooling system has to be used even the entire area is cool down by air condition.

timothy898989 bigbrother,
Thanks for your contribution. I will tell the owner to learn something from your link. You are welcome to give more help!

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